tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8778626287556834261.post8260382074917427343..comments2024-03-28T01:49:29.773-07:00Comments on lostpastremembered: Apicius’ Sala Cattabia Apiciana –– Chicken and Cucumber Bread Salad with Celery Seed DressingDeana Sidneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14908407077861396161noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8778626287556834261.post-35473962388938553752013-09-10T09:56:00.244-07:002013-09-10T09:56:00.244-07:00The Vehling translation isn't so great. He ten...The Vehling translation isn't so great. He tends to put information that's not actually in the Latin. Grainger's translation is probably the best out there. <br /><br />I do my own translations and roughly, I would say:<br />Add in a mortar celery seed, dried pennyroyal, dried mint, ginger, green coriander, seeded dried grapes, honey, vinegar, oil and wine. Pulverize. Add in a pan crumbled Picentine bread, place among it chicken meat, kid's sweetbreads, Vestinian cheese, pinenuts, cucumbers, dried onions cut up small. Pour juice [that is, the above dressing] over. Sprinkle snow on top at the time and serve. <br /><br />A friend makes it as a sort of panzanella.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8778626287556834261.post-16097568199207036852011-12-20T22:04:08.165-08:002011-12-20T22:04:08.165-08:00Some interesting notes but - are Anthimus' rec...Some interesting notes but - are Anthimus' recipes in fact related to those in Aspicius? He uses far fewer spices, not to mention clove, which "Aspicius" does not. And his preparations - even when they're not cursory dietary recommendations - are simpler than the earlier recommendations (compare sow's womb, for instance).<br />Or am I missing something?chezjimhttp://chezjim.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8778626287556834261.post-81994133097410029842011-10-12T16:59:54.569-07:002011-10-12T16:59:54.569-07:00simply amazing, the things I learn every time I st...simply amazing, the things I learn every time I stop by your blog! <br />that salad looks exquisite, I love how everything comes together so nicely, the presentation really adds to the dish!<br />Now lets talk about that beverage, I am so intrigued with the process, I really would love to taste that concoction as intended!<br />Cheers<br />DennisChef Dennis Littleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05388059515828451861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8778626287556834261.post-9179917306696214682011-10-10T16:19:34.440-07:002011-10-10T16:19:34.440-07:00I am glad you dig yourself into these bits of hist...I am glad you dig yourself into these bits of history and food. Thank you. This recipe is not only appetizing, but uniquely beautiful.<br /><br /> Yes, the Romans do know how to eat...I am headed to Rome in an hour and am so looking forward to dining among the historical ruins :-)2 Stewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13215338109613729558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8778626287556834261.post-87157373082810741672011-10-10T13:18:06.777-07:002011-10-10T13:18:06.777-07:00I did not know that Apicius was a persona rather t...I did not know that Apicius was a persona rather than an individual - at least I don't think I did! - but it makes perfect sense. I have tried a couple of Roman recipes but nothing so beautiful as this, my dear.Tasty Trixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17583301157540398839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8778626287556834261.post-79829800235043814902011-10-10T08:25:46.547-07:002011-10-10T08:25:46.547-07:00Absolutely stunning salad! So interesting to read ...Absolutely stunning salad! So interesting to read about the history, I especially enjoyed the translation filtration process for this drink. Amazing read :)Magic of Spicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05034283259164629148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8778626287556834261.post-2748258199755697722011-10-08T07:41:43.857-07:002011-10-08T07:41:43.857-07:00I do love having a "pit bull" as a frien...I do love having a "pit bull" as a friend. :) You do all the work, we reap all the benefits!<br /><br />This jewel-like salad is certainly chock full (and no doubt you used sweetbreads too) of unusual and fabulous ingredients. Your idea of onions first makes such a lovely presentation when turned out. The entire thing is a looking-glass into a salad. Each element is there to for us to see. A work of art, but I'd love a taste.<br />Using bread is interesting, isn't it? Of course we see bread salads all the time, but in an aspic? Very unusual, Deana.Barbarahttp://www.moveablefeastscookbook.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8778626287556834261.post-1085368515330646782011-10-08T05:25:38.674-07:002011-10-08T05:25:38.674-07:00OH, this is so earthy and fabulous, as ONLY YOU ca...OH, this is so earthy and fabulous, as ONLY YOU can BRING TO US! Imagine dearest, what these ancient people ate, how they prepared their food, how they sat or rather, reclined at table!!! We have a joke here at RABBIT HILL (where I live). We have many bunnies who come during the lazy days of summer. They eat our grass for they do NOT like what is in my garden (thank the gods!) yet they enjoy laying down and eating as they lay there...I call them ROMAN RABBITS because I can see them eating little clusters of grapes, thinking they own the place! Oh the delights of ancient cuisine; but I find here that the delicacies are the mindset and resources that tell us so much about this fertile and beautiful land. THANK YOU for visiting me and yes, I have no family near or far...all gone. But my friends both near and far mean the world to me.<br /><br />Merci pour ton amitié, AnitaCastles Crowns and Cottageshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01780241008313365707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8778626287556834261.post-56769973984495922272011-10-08T03:27:52.462-07:002011-10-08T03:27:52.462-07:00How fascinating and what a shame that there was th...How fascinating and what a shame that there was that black hole in food writing. I wonder what we missed out on. I had a dish called Peking-Aylesbury Duck “Apicius” and it was delicious! :)Lorraine @ Not Quite Nigellahttp://www.notquitenigella.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8778626287556834261.post-76829136794388588832011-10-08T00:01:09.908-07:002011-10-08T00:01:09.908-07:00I absolutely love your posts.I absolutely love your posts.Eat. Drink. Lovehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03177743511377773418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8778626287556834261.post-78478700595820666982011-10-07T17:58:45.593-07:002011-10-07T17:58:45.593-07:00My dearly beloved says I'm like a pitbull, too...My dearly beloved says I'm like a pitbull, too. It's OK. We pitbulls get things done. Good for you, researching those ancient recipes. I have hundreds and more hundreds of old books, and I'd be looking that reference up, too, if I had the book. These look like good dishes!Marjiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14950085029835332900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8778626287556834261.post-42745514718330282862011-10-07T14:18:18.451-07:002011-10-07T14:18:18.451-07:00You know what I love about the Romans? They would ...You know what I love about the Romans? They would eat till they barfed, and that was totally okay. Them is my kinda people LOL!<br />Your dish reminds me of a jewel. If you made it smaller, I could just imagine it sitting in a ring setting. Beautiful.<br />*kisses* HHHeavenly Housewifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14283933713343453486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8778626287556834261.post-13883082775043245742011-10-07T12:20:08.665-07:002011-10-07T12:20:08.665-07:00I love the look:) So so pretty..you could not hel...I love the look:) So so pretty..you could not help but feel special to be served this..La Table De Nanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04358539954508050792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8778626287556834261.post-61690715578537425622011-10-06T14:05:41.762-07:002011-10-06T14:05:41.762-07:00I would have loved to seen the spread on which Api...I would have loved to seen the spread on which Apicius spent all that money! I'm sure it cost a fortune to have snow gathered delivered for the salad too.<br /><br />Gorgeous photos - the salad looks so appealing!SavoringTime in the Kitchenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14416968440250548090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8778626287556834261.post-41695825951842846222011-10-06T06:37:21.264-07:002011-10-06T06:37:21.264-07:00I so love reading your posts!I so love reading your posts!pamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02651944290195111894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8778626287556834261.post-30608769851589013012011-10-06T06:32:21.318-07:002011-10-06T06:32:21.318-07:00Ooh is that pretty.
I like the direction: bury th...Ooh is that pretty. <br />I like the direction: bury the mold in snow...<br />LLLori Lynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07618373287712454892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8778626287556834261.post-54473635311637653752011-10-06T06:17:10.041-07:002011-10-06T06:17:10.041-07:00I've been fortunate to hear Grainger speak. ...I've been fortunate to hear Grainger speak. It's fascinating the legends that emerge around so many famous figures. Did Shakepeare really write the plays? In the case of Apicius, I suspect the "written by many" theory is probably true, but it is fun to imagine an ancient gourmand who started it all! The "salad" is just exquisite!T.W. Barritt at Culinary Typeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08707931838240978818noreply@blogger.com